White privilege is the problem

My 65 year old mother in law sent me this today and I thought I'd share it.  If it's redundant I apologize.

<>This is Your Nation on White Privilege

By Tim Wise

9/13/08

For those who still can't grasp the concept of white privilege, or who are looking for some easy-to-understand examples of it, perhaps this list will help.

White privilege is when you can get pregnant at seventeen like Bristol Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your life and that of your family is a personal matter, and that no one has a right to judge you or your parents, because "every family has challenges," even as black and Latino families with similar "challenges" are regularly typified as irresponsible, pathological and arbiters of social decay.

White privilege is when you can call yourself a "fuckin' redneck," like Bristol Palin's boyfriend does, and talk about how if anyone messes with you, you'll "kick their fuckin' ass," and talk about how you like to "shoot shit" for fun, and still be viewed as a responsible, all-American boy (and a great son-in-law to be) rather than a thug.

White privilege is when you can attend four different colleges in six years like Sarah Palin did (one of which you basically failed out of, then returned to after making up some coursework at a community college), and no one questions your intelligence or commitment to achievement, whereas a person of color who did this would be viewed as unfit for college, and probably someone who only got in in the first place because of affirmative action.

White privilege is when you can claim that being mayor of a town smaller than most medium-sized colleges, and then Governor of a state with about the same number of people as the lower fifth of the island of Manhattan, makes you ready to potentially be president, and people don't all piss on themselves with laughter, while being a black U.S. Senator, two-term state Senator, and constitutional law scholar, means you're "untested."

White privilege is being able to say that you support the words "under God" in the pledge of allegiance because "if it was good enough for the founding fathers, it's good enough for me," and not be immediately disqualified from holding office--since, after all, the pledge was written in the late 1800s and the "under God" part wasn't added until the 1950s--while if you're black and believe in reading accused criminals and terrorists their rights (because the Constitution, which you used to teach at a prestigious law school, requires it), you are a dangerous and mushy liberal who isn't fit to safeguard American institutions.

White privilege is being able to be a gun enthusiast and not make people immediately scared of you.

White privilege is being able to have a husband who was a member of an extremist political party that wants your state to secede from the Union, and whose motto is "Alaska first," and no one questions your patriotism or that of your family, while if you're black and your spouse merely fails to come to a 9/11 memorial so she can be home with her kids on the first day of school, people immediately think she's being disrespectful.

White privilege is being able to make fun of community organizers and the work they do--like, among other things, fight for the right of women to vote, or for civil rights, or the 8-hour workday, or an end to child labor--and people think you're being pithy and tough, but if you merely question the experience of a small town mayor and 18-month governor with no foreign policy expertise beyond a class she took in college and the fact that she lives close to Russia--you're somehow being mean, or even sexist.

White privilege is being able to convince white women who don't even agree with you on any substantive issue to vote for you and your running mate anyway, because suddenly your presence on the ticket has inspired confidence in these same white women, and made them give your party a "second look."

White privilege is being able to fire people who didn't support your political campaigns and not be accused of abusing your power or being a typical politician who engages in favoritism, while being black and merely knowing some folks from the old-line political machines in Chicago means you must be corrupt.

White privilege is when you can take nearly twenty-four hours to get to a hospital after beginning to leak amniotic fluid, and still be viewed as a great mom whose commitment to her children is unquestionable, and whose "next door neighbor" qualities make her ready to be VP, while if you're a black candidate for president and you let your children be interviewed for a few seconds on TV, you're irresponsibly exploiting them.

White privilege is being able to give a 36 minute speech in which you talk about lipstick and make fun of your opponent, while laying out no substantive policy positions on any issue at all, and still manage to be considered a legitimate candidate, while a black person who gives an hour speech the week before, in which he lays out specific policy proposals on several issues, is still criticized for being too vague about what he would do if elected.

White privilege is being able to attend churches over the years whose pastors say that people who voted for John Kerry or merely criticize George W. Bush are going to hell, and that the U.S. is an explicitly Christian nation and the job of Christians is to bring Christian theological principles into government, and who bring in speakers who say the conflict in the Middle East is God's punishment on Jews for rejecting Jesus, and everyone can still think you're just a good church-going Christian, but if you're black and friends with a black pastor who has noted (as have Colin Powell and the U.S. Department of Defense) that terrorist attacks are often the result of U.S. foreign policy and who talks about the history of racism and its effect on black people, you're an extremist who probably hates America.

White privilege is not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is when asked by a reporter, and then people get angry at the reporter for asking you such a "trick question," while being black and merely refusing to give one-word answers to the queries of Bill O'Reilly means you're dodging the question, or trying to seem overly intellectual and nuanced.

White privilege is being able to go to a prestigious prep school, then to Yale and then Harvard Business school, and yet, still be seen as just an average guy (George W. Bush) while being black, going to a prestigious prep school, then Occidental College, then Columbia, and then to Harvard Law, makes you "uppity," and a snob who probably looks down on regular folks.

White privilege is being able to graduate near the bottom of your college class (McCain), or graduate with a C average from Yale (W.) and that's OK, and you're cut out to be president, but if you're black and you graduate near the top of your class from Harvard Law, you can't be trusted to make good decisions in office.

White privilege is being able to dump your first wife after she's disfigured in a car crash so you can take up with a multi-millionaire beauty queen (who you go on to call the c-word in public) and still be thought of as a man of strong family values, while if you're black and married for nearly twenty years to the same woman, your family is viewed as un-American and your gestures of affection for each other are called "terrorist fist bumps."

White privilege is when you can develop a pain-killer addiction, having obtained your drug of choice illegally like Cindy McCain, go on to beat that addiction, and everyone praises you for being so strong, while being a black guy who smoked pot a few times in college and never became an addict means people will wonder if perhaps you still get high, and even ask whether or not you ever sold drugs.

White privilege is being able to sing a song about bombing Iran and still be viewed as a sober and rational statesman, with the maturity to be president, while being black and suggesting that the U.S. should speak with other nations, even when we have disagreements with them, makes you "dangerously naive and immature."

White privilege is being able to claim your experience as a POW has anything at all to do with your fitness for president, while being black and experiencing racism and an absent father is apparently among the "lesser adversities" faced by other politicians, as Sarah Palin explained in her convention speech.

And finally, white privilege is the only thing that could possibly allow someone to become president when he has voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time, even as unemployment is skyrocketing, people are losing their homes, inflation is rising, and the U.S. is increasingly isolated from world opinion, just because a lot of white voters aren't sure about that whole "change" thing.  Ya know, it's just too vague and ill-defined, unlike, say, four more years of the same, which is very concrete and certain.

White privilege is, in short, the problem./



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Re: White privilege is the problem (2.00 / 1)

I think somone posted this here already in it's complete form.

Very good stuff, however.

ONE suggestion, when you create the diary, there are TWO boxes in the HTML form.

Split the text between the two boxes, on a long post that like, put 80% in box two, put the first 20% of the text in box one.

You will display just the first couple of paragraphs on the main diary page.

Otherwise, you blow out the complete front page of the diary section, as your entire copy is posted there, not just when people click on more...


Our long national nightmare is over...in 17 days!
by WashStateBlue on Tue Sep 30, 2008 at 05:12:55 PM EST

Re: White privilege is the problem (2.00 / 1)

Ahhh thank you.  


by tired of dynasties on Tue Sep 30, 2008 at 05:14:42 PM EST
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Your welcome.


Our long national nightmare is over...in 17 days!
by WashStateBlue on Tue Sep 30, 2008 at 05:15:56 PM EST
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Re: White privilege is the problem (none / 0)

This kind of stuff only divides people. IMO, it's not helpful.


by soyousay on Tue Sep 30, 2008 at 05:43:39 PM EST

Re: White privilege is the problem (2.00 / 1)

You of course have the luxury of worrying about the aesthetics of it.


When you start out making the "slippery slope" argument, where do you draw the line?
by Jess81 on Tue Sep 30, 2008 at 05:52:11 PM EST
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Are you angry? (2.00 / 0)


by soyousay on Tue Sep 30, 2008 at 11:46:31 PM EST
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Re: White privilege is the problem (2.00 / 1)

Sometime change is NOT helpful, if the change is uncomfortable for the powers that be.

You have to mess up the status quo, if you want change.

There a lot of people who keep claiming "Prejudice is over, because I am not prejudiced"...

I don't think so.

Then, a large chunk of democrats tell exit pollsters race was not only a factor, but the primary factor in their decision...

Notice, I did not say if the voters were white or black...


Our long national nightmare is over...in 17 days!
by WashStateBlue on Tue Sep 30, 2008 at 05:57:18 PM EST
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You know what sounds predjudice to me? (none / 0)

"White Privilege"


by soyousay on Tue Sep 30, 2008 at 11:45:50 PM EST
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Here, have a substantial quantity of dubloons (none / 0)

...to the HEAD! (snark.)

Seriously, when will you lay off this crapola? You may not be a troll anywhere else, but you're certainly a troll here.

10% is the number, the wealth disparity between whites and blacks is 90%. That means you as a white person have 90% more wealth than a black person does.

On average, of course. but averages make rather a lot of difference.


yo mir kennen
by RisingTide on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 10:18:47 AM EST
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divisive (none / 0)

Blaming all the problems we have in this country on racism is ridiculous. Sure there's racism in America coming from ALL races, everyone already knows this. BTW, you have NO idea of my race and I don't plan to tell you because you are using race in a divisive way.


by soyousay on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 10:53:27 AM EST
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most people are proud of their race (none / 0)

... I'm guessing white.

Monetary racism is hereditary. I'm sorry, but that form of racism is not congruent across races.


yo mir kennen
by RisingTide on Thu Oct 02, 2008 at 01:05:06 PM EST
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Re: White privilege is the problem (2.00 / 1)

That's rich coming from the most divisive commentator here. ROTFLMAO


by venician on Tue Sep 30, 2008 at 06:18:02 PM EST
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That was meant for soyousay


by venician on Tue Sep 30, 2008 at 06:18:34 PM EST
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No kidding. You're distain is obvious.


by soyousay on Tue Sep 30, 2008 at 11:37:26 PM EST
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I'll take that as a complement; much better than being a clone, supporting the party even when they're screwing up.


by soyousay on Tue Sep 30, 2008 at 11:43:30 PM EST
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Re: White privilege is the problem (none / 0)

When I read the title of this diary, I expected to read it, get pissed off, and start a flame war.  Instead, you've convinced me of your point, sir.  Well done.


by XoFalconXo on Tue Sep 30, 2008 at 06:06:10 PM EST

Re: White privilege is the problem (none / 0)

I think in some of these cases you're right, but in others there are other factors at play.  


by bluedavid on Tue Sep 30, 2008 at 07:15:16 PM EST

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It's in the "cultural" issues - the church, the teenage pregnancy, and the drug addiction - where the difference sticks out.


When you start out making the "slippery slope" argument, where do you draw the line?
by Jess81 on Tue Sep 30, 2008 at 07:32:38 PM EST
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This is a terrible diary full of hate. Too bad.


by soyousay on Tue Sep 30, 2008 at 11:47:42 PM EST

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coming from you i'll guess i'm on the right track.


by tired of dynasties on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 01:46:29 AM EST
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Stop dividing America (none / 0)

What difference does race make? That being said, you have NO idea and I'm not going to inform you because I don't want to contribute to racism or divisive language.


by soyousay on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 06:57:15 AM EST
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I call it being Republican. (2.00 / 1)

Kerry was subject to the same kind of absurd attacks.  And alot of the Republican attack lines against Obama are just following trends established in the primary by Clinton, and I would attribute those to gender and name recognition more than race.

But Republicans can get away with these kind of attacks because they don't have any demographics that get repulsed by them.  If a Democrat tried to employ them as many if not more voters would be lost as would be gained.  Clinton by the time she employed these tactics had already lost everyone that would object to them.


Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win. ~ Sun Tzu
by Tumult on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:43:37 AM EST

Attended all-white schools (none / 0)

And I saw the same disparity - for some, doing X was cool and OK while for another doing X was vile and proved he/she was XYZ.

White privilege could be equated with being in with the in-crowd.  After all, African Americans and others were certainly NOT a part of that crowd.  (By the way, in some ways that could be considered a great compliment!!!)

And I am NOT saying that African Americans haven't suffered completely horrendous abuse - and still suffer discrimination, some of which is justified by the social system; i.e. the justice system for AAs vs. others.

I agree with one poster that Kerry had to deal with the same crap - that is, Republican crap.  Here was a man who fought in Vietnam - put his life in danger - was honored by his closest comrads, received medals, the whole 9 yards and the Republicans made him into a lily-livered coward AND my Republicans friends ate it up with delight.  It was disgusting.  

And now let ANYONE dare say anything about McCain, and they would be called traitors, haters of America.

I don't call this white privilege.  I call it, first off, bull shit.  Shit by any other name smells the same.

As for Sarah Palin's daughter, I can remember just a few years back when white girls who were prego were shunned and sent off to live with their aunt, and their sin was not to be spoken of.  But of course, African American girls who were prego were just doing it to get another welfare check AND it proved the uncontrollable nature of AAs.  Sickening.  And NOW, the same crowd who would have been throwing rocks are bowing and singing the praises of this girl and her parents?  Still, I am glad that she is not being persecuted for her behavior.  


by Southern Mouth on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 10:04:34 AM EST

In all probability it wasn't her behaviour (none / 0)

... she was probably raped -- though I doubt she said no at the time, I'm practically certain she was unwilling.

The girls who 'save themselves' are the ones most likely to get raped. It's... biological.

Just another girl led out into the bushes...


yo mir kennen
by RisingTide on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 10:21:40 AM EST
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Huh? n/t (none / 0)


by Southern Mouth on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 10:25:02 AM EST
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please don't troll rate this. (none / 0)

Okay, the abstinence only shit that gets pounded into girls' heads doesn't work. It doesn't work because, believe it or not, of a failing of the dominant liberal ideology. To whit: women and men are not identical brains stuck in different bodies. This may be an extreme example of such, but I know you can think of other examples (sexual attractiveness is something I can pull studies on).

Basically, a girl's body is primed for sexual stimulation by the time they're about fourteen or so. If a girl continues to deny her body the opportunity to 'get off', at least partially, her body is likely to take the matter into its own hands. Unwilling girls get led off into the bushes every single day -- and they don't say a word as they get raped. They aren't prepared for the hormonally induced compliance to a boy.

I will not believe that Palin's daughter intentionally wanted to have her mother's career ruined, particularly when she went off into the bushes with a guy who got two other girls pregnant. It's far more likely that she was raped. And you wonder why she didn't want to marry her acquaintance who did it to her


yo mir kennen
by RisingTide on Thu Oct 02, 2008 at 01:03:45 PM EST
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Wouldn't troll rate for disagreement (none / 0)

But quite frankly, I don't understand a lot of what you wrote.

Okay, the abstinence only shit that gets pounded into girls' heads doesn't work. It doesn't work because, believe it or not, of a failing of the dominant liberal ideology. To whit: women and men are not identical brains stuck in different bodies.

Abstinence only doesn't work ALL THE TIME, but I find it ridiculous to blame that on the "dominant liberal ideology".  I'm liberal and I have NEVER thought women and men have identical brains stuck in different bodies.  Maybe some people do and preach that, but one can tell the different thinking by watching a 3 year old boy and 3 year old girl.  Is it nature or nurture?  Methinks both, but Discovery shows the different areas of function in men vs. women's brains.  They may be the "same brain" but they aren't functioning the same.

Basically, a girl's body is primed for sexual stimulation by the time they're about fourteen or so.

I was a heckuva lot younger than 14 - but then I lived in a high sexually stimulated environment.  That is:  I was sexually abused from the time I was 9 years old.  But I'll put my unfortunately not so uncommon experience aside.  For me, a body is a body and sexual stimulation is stimulation.  One doesn't have to understand what's happening to be sexually stimulated.  Acting on that stimulation is a different matter.

Unwilling girls led out in the bushes, saying yes when they didn't know what they were doing, didn't truly desire sex - in my book - would not qualify as rape in any court.  Her AGE speaks statutory rape; i.e. she's not old enough, mature enough to give consent.  Duh!  That's happening everywhere all the time.  Same goes for boys - they don't know squat but the other guys are doing it, so they feel like they have to.  I think that's probably been happening LONG BEFORE there was a liberal America or any other kind of America.

I will not believe that Palin's daughter intentionally wanted to have her mother's career ruined, particularly when she went off into the bushes with a guy who got two other girls pregnant. It's far more likely that she was raped. And you wonder why she didn't want to marry her acquaintance who did it to her.

1.  I doubt seriously that any young girl in the throes of her passion and his was even thinking of her mother/father except fear of being caught.  Ah the strength of the desire to "procreate and replenish the earth"!  Plus, there's that socialization need - that wonderful desire to be one of the regular people.  Great thing when compared to the idiots who care nothing about their fellow man.  It has its drawbacks though and parents have to constantly manage that socialization need and bounce it up against rules, regs, ethics, moral standards, etc.  You probably heard similar to what I heard from my parents:  "Just because X jumps off a bridge, does that mean you have to too?"   Inborne need for socialization vs. rules.

2.  I have't heard anything about the boy getting two other girls pregnant, but if he did then Bristol was probably dealing with a typical hunk that most us girls have dealt with.  They are oh so good-looking, sweet, loving, KNOW sexual things, and ain't worth a tinker's damn when it comes to love and commitment.

3.  Lastly, are you saying that she is not marrying the father of the baby?  That's how much I have followed the issue - a non-issue for me EVEN THOUGH some Republicans want to make it an issue of "See, she's pregnant and not getting an abortion."  To that, I say great!  She has a choice!  Boys have enjoyed that "choice" for EVER.  If we take the choice away from the girl, then we should take the choice away from the other party who was there at the time of conception.  But that's a separate issue - one that is fraught with difficulties and pain.


by Southern Mouth on Thu Oct 02, 2008 at 03:58:15 PM EST
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I'll split these responses up (none / 0)

I'm more of a parts thinker than "i want them all together".

There have been substantial amounts of witchhuntery in the sciences, particularly if you want to say that boys are better than girls at something or another. The whole idea that everyone can be treated interchangeably works much better when hormones are not involved! (i.e. questions of race).

Every model has deficiencies. ;-)


yo mir kennen
by RisingTide on Fri Oct 03, 2008 at 11:29:21 AM EST
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I am sorry for your loss... (none / 0)

(I'm not sure how much sense that will make to you, but it integrates in my head!).

When a girl's body doesn't get enough stimulation, eventually it can take matters into its own hands, making it impossible for a girl to actually say no. It's the way girls are wired -- at least when they're young and stupid enough to not be expecting it. And that's exactly what abstinence education does -- it won't let a girl get close enough to get some experience with how overwhelming it can be to be horny.

The other boys are lying when they say that they are having sex, fwiw. The boys who have sex in the sixth grade don't bother to talk about it.

Most girls who get fucked without a condom in the bushes don't say yes. Anyone looking at one can tell she doesn't want it, didn't want it. In my book, that's rape, even if a judge won't convict.

Way back when, they had the tradition of kissing cousins, where an older boy would break his cousin in. I don't think the girl generally wanted that to happen either.


yo mir kennen
by RisingTide on Fri Oct 03, 2008 at 11:36:02 AM EST
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You've seen Jesus Camp? (none / 0)

She didn't hardly know the boy who got her preggers.

My problem is that the rules don't work. "keep yourself until marriage" doesn't work -- well, it might with a vibrator handy!

She didn't want to marry the father. That's what the Enquirer had to say, and I believe it.

I'd rather give everyone a choice, and let the chips fall where they may. But then again, i'm pro-infanticide, if the circumstances warrant.


yo mir kennen
by RisingTide on Fri Oct 03, 2008 at 11:39:39 AM EST
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